Portage County Groundwater Citizens Advisory Committee Minutes for the Year 2000
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November 9, 2000
GROUNDWATER CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
NOVEMBER 9, 2000 AT 7:00 P.M.
ROOMS 1 & 2
Call to Order
Approval of September 21, 2000 Meeting Minutes
Assessment Sub-Committee (Browne)
Involvement/Education Sub-Committee (Berndt)
Management Plan & Implementation Sub-Committee (Langer)
Groundwater Quantity Resolution
Potential Availability of Staff and Funding for Implementation of CAC
Groundwater Program Recommendations (Berndt)
Update on Community Supported Agricultural Diversification
Discussion: Potential Effects of
Smart Growth Legislation (Kell)
Reports from Members (5 minute limit per member)
Meeting Date and Possible Agenda Items
A quorum of the Executive Committee and the Planning & Zoning
Committee of the County Board may be present at this meeting.
CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
NOVEMBER 9, 2000 AT 7:00 P.M.
CONFERENCE ROOMS 1 &2
PRESENT: Eleanor Bartig, Richard Berndt, Bryant Browne, Fred Copes,
Craig Corbett, Darrel DeGroff, Bill Ebert, Mike Hinrichs, Mark Klein,
Liz Langer, Christine Neidlein, Chris Pehoski, Jim Pottratz, Virgil
Seavers, David Shantz, Nancy Turyk, Butch Weege, Richard Wilcox, Tim
ABSENT: Burt Benjamin, Michael Copas, Peter Mallek, John Pavelski,
PRESENT: Chuck Kell, Ray Schmidt, Patty Crubaugh
Ralph Albert, Mike Carder, Stu Grimstad, John Jazdzewski, Denise
Kilkenny-Tittle, Chris Mechenich, Harvey Olson, Robert Steinke, James
TO ORDER: Chair Liz Langer called the meeting to order at 7:10 p.m.
with a quorum present.
OF SEPTEMBER 21, 2000 MEETING MINUTES:
motion was made by Corbett, seconded by DeGroff, to approve the minutes
as submitted. Motion
commented that there were County Board members present and was assured
by Langer that they would be recognized and their participation was
received a letter from the Town of Sharon regarding the appointment of
Peter Skibba to the Groundwater Citizens Advisory Committee.
Browne reported that the committee continues to meet monthly.
The next meeting will be in December.
They are working on communicating using e-mail, short and long
term goals, what they would like to see in a data base, and potential
funding sources to sustain the data collection effort.
Involvement/Education Sub-Committee (Berndt)
Berndt deferred the majority of the report to Agenda Item 6.
He mentioned that the Sub-committee has made a resolution to
establish a moratorium on the development of certain high water capacity
Plan & Implementation Sub-Committee (Langer)
Report included in the following agenda item.
– GROUNDWATER QUANTITY RESOLUTION:
received a copy of the resolution by mail, which was proposed by the
Groundwater Management Plan & Implementation Sub-Committee, and
drafted by Schmidt. It is a
result of the Sub-Committee’s concerns regarding the use of large
quantities of groundwater and the effects on existing springs, lakes,
and rivers. The County
Board is being asked to support a moratorium on high capacity extraction
wells being used for purposes other than agricultural or municipal uses
for three years, or until the State legislature adopts regulations for
these types of wells.
said the resolution is in response to a water bottling company’s
attempt to put in high capacity wells in Adams and Waushara Counties.
The Marquette County Board passed a similar resolution
prohibiting these wells until the DNR has the tools in place from the
legislature to properly regulate use of the wells.
The Sub-Committee felt it was important to bring the resolution
before the full Citizens Advisory Committee for consideration and
forward to the Planning and Zoning Committee.
Schmidt noted that the resolution applies only to uses where
water is taken off site and intended for retail consumption.
It does not apply to high capacity irrigation wells or municipal
water supplies, nor does it apply to current high capacity wells in the
Village of Whiting well field for the paper companies.
said he is not sure if the County Board has the authority to enact such
a moratorium. He also
questioned if the moratorium is discriminatory toward retail
consumption. Kell understands that approximately 780,000 gal/day will be
removed from the aquifer and bottled.
The Village of Whiting has 4-6 industrial high capacity wells
pumping 780,000 gal/day to Kimberly Clark and between 2 and 2-1/2
million gal/day to Stora Enso. That consumption comes from approximately 80 acres of land
with no loss of aquifer potential or drawdown problems.
asked Corporation Counsel for an opinion and was told that the County
Board does not have authority to regulate high capacity wells. The County does not issue permits for wells in the county.
The DNR has authority through the Administrative Code.
Corporation Counsel also replied that the proposed resolution is
discriminatory as it is applied to one type of use.
Kell said based on Corporation Counsel’s opinion he doesn’t
feel he can recommend moving the resolution forward to the Planning and
Zoning Committee and the County Board.
said water quantity is an issue and supplies should be protected so we
do not run out of water. Jazdzewski
suggested asking the DNR if it is possible to hold a public hearing as
part of the permitting process when a request is made for a high
capacity well that would affect the aquifer.
Kell said that would have to be investigated to see what the DNR
would be willing to do.
feels at the very least, information should be forwarded to the County
Board and our State representatives.
questioned how this resolution could be adopted in Marquette County, and
not in Portage County. The
same DNR statutes would apply in both counties.
He suggested the Corporation Counsels from both counties talk
with one another.
said one of the key points is that bottling operations come in to an
area and take vast amounts of groundwater without replacing. He suggested possibly approaching from the angle of banning
practices dependent upon high capacity wells until such time that
legislation is in place to address this area.
He explained the process bottlers use.
pointed out that the referendum to allow Perrier in Adams County was
defeated, and feels the people’s wishes should be supported. He urged the Committee take whatever steps are necessary to
encourage State legislators to deal with this issue.
said the purpose of this meeting is to get input and felt that was
accomplished. He felt the
resolution needed some refining and should be brought back again after
revisions are made. Berndt
motioned to table action on the resolution, seconded by Copes.
POTENTIAL AVAILABILITY OF STAFF AND FUNDING FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF
CAC GROUNDWATER PROGRAM RECOMMENDATIONS:
gave background on the Groundwater Management Plan. It was developed in the mid 1980’s, as requested by the
public, in response to concerns about aldicarb found in the groundwater.
The original Plan, adopted in 1988, included recommendations for
implementation, many of which have been completed, some are ongoing, and
some are yet to be completed. Additional
sampling and research over the years have shown the need to revise the
plan. The revision process
started in 1996, and around the same time, the CAC decided to form
sub-committees to involve more people.
of the first projects the Public Involvement and Education Sub-Committee
carried out was the Value of Groundwater Survey in 1997.
Schmidt had copies of the results of that survey available.
Of six factors contributing to the quality of life in Portage
County, citizens ranked groundwater quality most important and felt that
prevention of groundwater problems was more desirable than treatment
after the fact.
Groundwater Management Plan and Implementation Sub-Committee is
concerned with what is being done by the Planning and Zoning Department
and actual groundwater protection programs.
Continuous Assessment Sub-Committee monitors the effectiveness of the
programs being implemented.
CAC, Planning and Zoning Department, the Stevens Point, Whiting, Plover
Wellhead Protection Project, and UW Extension were all involved in the
Value of Groundwater Survey.
reported on the accomplishments of the Public Involvement and Education
Sub-Committee. At it’s
direction, a 32-page report entitled Portage County Groundwater
Conditions was put together by George Kraft, UWSP, detailing the current
status of the County’s groundwater resources and water quality.
four page summary entitled “The Changing State of Portage County’s
Groundwater” was written by UW Extension Community Resource
Development Agent, Mark Hilliker. These
were distributed county-wide through the Stevens Point Journal, the
Portage County Gazette, and were made available at all the
municipalities’ polling locations.
slide show presentation entitled “Stewardship for the Future” has
been offered to community groups and municipalities.
Twenty presentations have been made and requests are still coming
in. The response has been
web-site has been developed by Denise Kilkenny-Tittle.
Feedback has been favorable.
The web-site is well constructed and not only contains a lot of
information, it provides a vehicle for people to interact with each
other and the process. Bookmarks
were printed for distribution with the web-site address.
Grimstad encouraged members to visit the web-site.
search was conducted through publications and literature to find
information pertaining to groundwater quality.
A collection of over 200 publications and documents were indexed.
Six sets were reproduced and will be housed in Portage County
Libraries. The index will
be available on the web-site.
of articles published in the Stevens Point Journal and the Portage
County Gazette were made available.
This will be an ongoing series.
distributed copies of the Portage County Groundwater Management Plan
Process. He explained the
revision of the Groundwater Management Plan will be a continually
evolving process, with information fed into it as more is learned about
groundwater every day. The
Sub-Committees are working together and staying connected with the
are three primary unresolved issues:
Nitrates, pesticides, and groundwater quantity.
A three phase process is being used to address the issues:
Where are we now? Where
do we want to go? How do we
get there? Ebert
reviewed the list of the Sub-Committee’s goals and suggestions on how
to achieve them. He
encouraged members to comment and give their input.
thanked the members of the County Board for attending.
She reiterated that the CAC and it’ Sub-committees have been
working long and hard on the process of revising the Portage County
Groundwater Plan. She asked
for assistance and support from the Planning and Zoning Committee and
the County Board by providing funding for a new position to help
complete the Plan process. She
projects the position would cost each county resident $.70 a year, and
feels this is a small price to pay to assure that safe drinking water
will remain available to Portage County residents.
Planning and Zoning Committee, commented that the Executive Committee
was not in attendance and should hear this information first hand.
Kell said that many requests have been made for additional staff
in recent years, and have been turned down.
The general philosophy of the Finance Committee has been that if
there aren’t grants to fund and sustain a position, they do not want
to put it on the tax levy. The
groundwater position request was brought before the Planning and Zoning
Committee, who decided to bring the issue up to the Executive Committee.
The Executive Committee said to develop a program and state the
need for the position. They
also told Kell he must prioritize requests for staffing.
The Open Space preservation group also would like a staff person
added in Planning and Zoning. Kell stated his top priority is the Smart Growth issue,
because if it is not done when the State law kicks in 10 years from now,
the County will lose their authority to enact ordinances, codes, etc. The P&Z Department has received $50,000 from the Finance
Committee for each of the next three years, contingent upon receiving a
grant, and financial support has been promised by the communities for
Smart Growth, which will enable the P&Z Department to hire four new
staff. Kell would like to
be able to retain one position permanently after Smart Growth is
completed to assist with Groundwater Management Plan and Open Space Plan
recommendations, however, the County funding will cease after three
years, and will be committed elsewhere.
said the County Board should be asked if they want clean groundwater.
He feels they don’t seem to care.
The citizens have indicated this is their desire, and they expect
the County to pay for it.
Planning and Zoning Committee Chair, said the Finance Committee’s
priorities are law enforcement, human services, and highways. Kell agreed, saying that those programs are considered
mandatory and will receive funding, while other programs are looked at
as being somewhat discretionary and struggle to get money.
Browne said the Finance Committee must be convinced that
groundwater protection is not a discretionary issue.
The members of the Planning and Zoning Committee all stated they were
supportive of our groundwater process and plan.
said since groundwater quality is a health issue, perhaps partnering and
consolidating efforts with Health and Human Services should be
considered. Mike Carder,
Health and Human Services Environmental Health Supervisor, agreed that
more collaboration is inevitable.
commented that preventing nitrates from entering the groundwater supply
would cost millions of dollars less than having to build nitrate removal
systems. Carder said that a
number of studies have been done regarding the health effects of
contaminants. Prevention is
asked if it would be possible to focus one of the Smart Growth positions
on groundwater in order to prove the necessity of maintaining a
permanent position. Kell
said it may be possible for a portion of one of the position’s time be
used to assist with groundwater. He
said the Groundwater Management Plan update will become a major
component of the Smart Growth comprehensive planning effort.
A comprehensive plan must be completed for every community in the
county, and the County itself in order to retain the authority to
regulate land use. It will
likely take the effort of all four staff to get this accomplished in
was decided to include Agenda Item #8 with this discussion.)
POTENTIAL EFFECTS OF SMART GROWTH LEGISLATION (KELL):
Alberts, Town of Eau Pleine Chair, had understood the comprehensive
plans were to be completed in six years.
Kell said at the time the presentation was made to the
municipalities, the grant criteria had not been established.
The grant contract requires the recipient to commit to completing
the plan in three years. If
the grant is received, the municipal contribution will decrease.
There is $2.5 million available statewide, and Kell is requesting
$500,000, which is the maximum. Kell
feels confident about the chances of receiving the grant from the
standpoint that it is possible that Portage County is the only applicant
with an intergovernmental cooperation program.
Groundwater is one of eight elements that must be included in the
Smart Growth plans.
said the Committee needs to either come up with a position description
to present to the Finance Committee, or commit to intergovernmental
cooperation working with other departments and agencies to assure that
groundwater quantity and quality impacts are taken into consideration
when land use planning issues are raised.
made a motion to request one full time staff in the Planning and Zoning
Department to implement the Groundwater Management Plan, seconded by
Corbett. Call to question
by DeGroff. Motion carried,
DeGroff voting nay.
resolution will be forwarded to the Planning and Zoning Committee.
Kell said the County budget for 2001 is up for adoption on
November 14, and obviously this position request is not included.
Ebert suggested including the position in the next budget cycle.
asked the Planning and Zoning Committee members if they will refer the
position request to the Executive Committee for their consideration.
Olsen said that even though the P&Z Committee supports and
passes the resolution, it still needs other committee approvals.
suggested using resources such the UWSP, to possibly access students to
work on projects. She also
informed them that she is currently maintaining the website, but that
will not always be the case. Kell
said that no one has been identified to keep the website up to date at
felt that partnering with Health and Human Services is a good idea and
asked Mike Carder to give his thoughts.
Carder expressed his interest in pursuing discussions.
Langer said Carder will be put on the agenda for the next
meeting, and Ebert suggested that a Committee representative be invited
to an Environmental Health Committee meeting. Carder agreed.
ON COMMUNITY SUPPORTED AGRICULTURAL DIVERSIFICATION (EBERT)
passed around a copy of a memo he addressed to various community,
government, and agricultural leaders to rally support and invite them to
participate in a roundtable discussion.
To date, he has heard back from five people.
Also included was a project summary for Community Supported
Agricultural Diversification. Ebert
said 90% of nitrates and pesticides in the groundwater originate from
agricultural uses. He would
like to entice producers to raise other crops that are profitable, and
require smaller amounts of fertilizers and pesticides, along with trying
to lure businesses to create markets for those products.
Ebert has received a small grant from the Department of
Agriculture, Trade, and Consumer Protection and will be hiring a
coordinator for this project. Ebert
will be presenting ideas to various farm groups.
DeGroff suggested also including recreational land uses.
Village of Plover Water Works Manager told Ebert that nitrates in the
well were hovering around 10, having been as high as 15 or 16. Ebert shared his viewpoints with the Village regarding
the location of a natural gas fired power plant, feeling they could
attract a power company that utilized renewable resources, and possibly
at the same time create new markets and protect groundwater.
felt a few things have been accomplished at this meeting.
He made a comment that he feels septic systems should be located
the proper distance from lot lines.
criticized the Planning and Zoning Department for information provided
by the Department of Transportation on the Town of Grant’s zoning.
also expressed concern on a problem in the Town of Eau Pleine with a
mobile home being located too close to a lot line, and having a
questionable septic system. Ralph
Albert, Town of Eau Pleine Chairman, indicated this issue is currently
stated that the Town of Hull is concerned about, and against, the
proposed Highway 10 route near the Plover River.
A number of center pivot wells would have to be moved.
It could also be potentially damaging to the Plover River.
reported that the Town of Stockton Smart Growth Committee and Stockton
Area Planning Committee have designated 360 acres as an
industrial/commercial development at the Intersection of Hwy. 10 and J.
asked when to expect the report on Mill Creek from Tim Victor, County
said it will be on the January agenda.
MEETING DATE AND POSSIBLE AGENDA ITEMS
next meeting will be January 25, 2001 at 7:00 p.m. Possible agenda items will be the tabled motion regarding the
Groundwater Quantity Resolution, and the report from Victor on Mill
motion was made by Berndt, seconded by Corbett to adjourn the meeting at
Patty Crubaugh, Recording Secretary
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September 21, 2000
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 2000 AT 7:00 P.M
CONFERENCE ROOMS 1 & 2
Call to Order
Approval of July 13, 2000 Meeting Minutes
A. Continual Assessment Sub-Committee (Browne)
B. Public Involvement/Education Sub-Committee (Berndt)
Groundwater Management Plan & Implementation Sub-Committee
Community Supported Agricultural Diversification (Ebert)
Proposed Groundwater Goals (Langer/Schmidt)
Clean Water Plan Being Addressed by the Clinton Administration
from Members (5 minute limit per member)
Meeting Date and Possible Agenda Items
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 2000 AT 7:00 P.M.
CONFERENCE ROOMS 1 & 2
MEMBERS PRESENT: Richard Berndt, Bryant Browne, Fred Copes, Craig Corbett, Darrel DeGroff,
Mark Klein, Peter Mallek, Liz Langer, Christine Neidlein, Chris Pehoski,
Jim Potratz, David Schantz, Rosemary Seavers, and Tim Zimmerman
Eleanor Bartig, Mark Dawson and Bill Ebert
Burt Benjamin, Michael Copas, Mike Hinrichs, John Pavelski, Judie
Schauer-Wiener, Butch Weege, and Richard Wilcox
STAFF PRESENT: Jane
Iwanski and Ray Schmidt
Denise Kilkenny-Tittle and Virgil Seavers
CALL TO ORDER:
Chair Liz Langer called the meeting to order at 7: 05 p.m. with a quorum
APPROVAL OF JULY 13, 2000 MEETING MINUTES:
A motion was made by Corbett, seconded by Zimmerman, to
approve the minutes as submitted. Unanimously
Continual Assessment Subcommittee (Browne)
subcommittee met for the first time on September 13. The seven individuals present discussed the mission of the
subcommittee: to design and implement a long-term groundwater quality
& quantity monitoring and assessment program.
Those present discussed looking at data, gathering the existing
data, and making sure there is a continuous stream of data to address
problems. One of the
long-term goals discussed was development and maintenance of the data
members left the meeting with an assignment on what they would like the
monitoring and assessment program to look like. Members were asked to communicate their ideas through the
subcommittee’s discussion room found on the web-site. The ideas will then be consolidated and refined during the
next meeting in approximately one month.
The subcommittee members agreed to meet monthly.
Public Involvement/Education Subcommittee (Berndt)
indicated Schmidt provided a slide presentation in the Town of New Hope
September 20. The
25 citizens in attendance shared a lot of concerns and asked Schmidt a
number of questions. One of the 2-3 farmers present, asked good
questions regarding agriculture and septic systems.
Those in attendance complimented Schmidt for a job well done.
Schmidt indicated the level of caring and concern found in the
Town of New Hope was greater that he had seen in other presentations.
has received three more requests for presentations and is working to
coordinate dates and times with these groups.
indicated the joint-subcommittees have been writing articles to be
published in the Stevens Point Journal and the Portage County Gazette.
The articles were to be published already; unfortunately, Schmidt
encountered some e-mail problems. Schmidt
e-mailed the articles to the editors; however, both editors indicated
they had not received the articles.
In the future, Schmidt will send a hard copy to the editors in
addition to e-mailing copies to make sure the articles are received.
Both editors indicated they will expedite printing of the
articles. Instead of
printing the articles monthly, the articles will be run weekly until
caught up. Schmidt indicated CAC members could also write up articles in
addition to what the subcommittee members are working on.
made up by Kilkenny-Tittle, were distributed to those present.
The bookmarks include the web-site address, e-mail address, and
Schmidt’s Planning & Zoning Department telephone number.
Groundwater Management Plan & Implementation Subcommittee (Langer)
Langer stated the bibliography is on the web-site.
The original documents mentioned in the bibliography will be held
at the Planning & Zoning Department, with copies in the Groundwater
Center, RC & D Office, and the Portage County Library.
Kilkenny-Tittle further reviewed the bibliography as found on the
web-site. The main topics include Nitrates, pesticides and
bibliography has been organized by topic, as well as, alphabetically.
subcommittee continues to work on goals.
These goals are also listed on the web-site encouraging citizens
to provide input. The goals
will be addressed at the September 28 subcommittee meeting held at 4:40
p.m. in Courthouse Conference Room 5.
there is no way for the public to communicate/contact their CAC
representative on the web-site. On
the CAC membership page, name, address, telephone number, and e-mail
addresses have been listed with the approval of each CAC member.
For those members who do not have e-mail addresses, Schmidt’s
e-mail address will be added as a contact.
Any messages Schmidt receives will be forwarded to the
appropriate CAC members. Kilkenny-Tittle
circulated the CAC membership page asking those present to review, and
make any needed corrections to their address, telephone number, and
County has provided funds for development of the web-site.
Currently, this web-site is on the University of Wisconsin -
Stevens Point server. The County is developing its own web-site.
Once the Portage County site is up and running, the groundwater
site will be linked.
asked if the Portage County Groundwater Management Plan is currently on
the web-site. Kilkenny-Tittle
indicated because of size, the Plan has not been added to the site;
however, a summary can be found. Once
the Plan is revised it will be added to the site.
thanked Kilkenny-Tittle for all her time and assistance with the
development of the web-site, as well as all of her work with the
COMMUNITY SUPPORTED AGRICULTURAL DIVERSIFICATION:
Ebert was unable to attend the meeting.
Ebert provided a memo to be circulated to members, regarding
Community Supported Agricultural Diversification.
A meeting is to be held in early-mid October to get this program
kicked-off. The memo stated
the mission of this project is to facilitate the creation of local
markets for sustainable agricultural crops that can be grown locally,
profitably, and with a minimum amount of fertilizer and pesticide
inputs, thus protecting groundwater through the development of large
scale community supported “green” agriculture.
The memo further explained the objectives of this project are to:
1. help interested farmers learn more about environmentally-friendly crops that are profitable and suited to this climate
2. connect farmers with the technical resources necessary to grow these crops
3. bring the economic development and lending entities together with the farmers to create local markets for their products
4. develop agro-ecosystem diversification plans with 10 area farmers, and
foster one model partnership between farmers, lenders and
economic development personnel.
After brief discussion, committee members expressed interest,
and requested an update at the next CAC meeting.
PROPOSED GROUNDWATER GOALS:
Copies of the final Nitrate, pesticide and quantity goals were
distributed to those present. In
early August, copies were sent to Town Board Members as well as
“sensitive partners” (those groups who may have an interest in what
the subcommittee is doing). The
goals have been split into three areas: Nitrate, Quantity Goals, and
Pesticides. Schmidt stated when developing the goals, the subcommittee
concentrated on two things:
1. to make the goals understandable/measurable, and
to make them defensible (basing them on already adopted criteria:
i.e. the enforcement standards, drinking water standard, the preventive
Langer asked for feedback from members.
No feedback has been received from Town Board Members or other
groups who were mailed the goals.
CLEAN WATER PLAN BEING ADDRESSED BY THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION:
Copies of the article Clinton OKs clean water plan as
published in the Stevens Point Journal on Wednesday, July 12, 2000 was
distributed. Schmidt spoke
with the people in the groundwater section for Region 5 EPA out of
Chicago, they do not feel the Clean Water Plan has any consideration for
groundwater, nor does it have any impact on groundwater.
There are some other EPA projects that are ongoing; however, any
benefits to groundwater or impacts on groundwater would be incidental.
This Plan is mainly surface water, lakes, streams, and wetlands.
The states are charged with coming up with the programming to
go along with what the Clean Water Act would require. This would go to DNR to develop the programming and ship it
to EPA for approval. Basically,
the State DNR already has in place a number of programs, and they do not
anticipate a lot of changes.
Zimmerman indicated there was a main water line break
on Brilowski Road near Fleet Farm.
Zimmerman questioned whether this water had been tested?
Schmidt was not aware of the problem and will look into it.
Zimmerman stated things have been challenging in the
Town of Hull as far as water. We
have the City of Stevens Point with wells in the airport area using up
to 5 million gallons of water a day for the mill.
Hwy 10 may take a big turn and not go through Stevens Point
anymore. The highway may be
going through the Town of Stockton (article in the Gazette which gives
you an overview of this). Another
concern is about bridges going over the Plover River with the spills and
the water in the recharge area.
Zimmerman indicated in Plover they will have a
meeting next week on the proposed Natural Gas Fired Generating Power
Plant. Zimmerman stated
they may not be getting the water from the Wisconsin River because of
thermal pollution. Zimmerman
questioned where the water will be coming from.
If they do not get river water, will they want to use city water,
village water, or dig a well.
Schmidt gave a presentation at the Town of Hull
meeting. Zimmerman did not
feel that Schmidt received the attention he deserved, but he did a good
job. Although they
discussed the changing of the Wellhead Protection Ordinance in the City
of Stevens Point Business Park, individuals present did not understand
the problems which may be created.
Lastly, Zimmerman watched a film on Bloody Run Creek
approximately one week ago on public television which was very
Pehoski questioned how manure will be handled.
Schmidt indicated an innovative manure system
separating liquids and solids will be installed.
The liquids will go to a digester, and solids will go to a
compost operation. This
compost operation will heat up the manure to 135-140 degrees.
Once composted at this temp, the manure will be safe to use as
bedding for the cattle.
Schmidt indicated this plan is just a proposal at
this time and is not public. The
owner is paying for the facility out of his own pockets, not receiving
any federal or state funding.
MEETING DATE AND POSSIBLE AGENDA ITEMS:
next meeting is scheduled for November 9, 2000, at 7:00 p.m. at
Courthouse Annex Conference Rooms 1 and 2.
Possible agenda items include:
to adjournment, Schmidt asked to address Corbett’s statement on
Schmidt and Kell not caring about, or forwarding CAC concerns. Schmidt indicated this is Kell’s decision and he answers
directly to the County Board. Schmidt
further stated the only way this committee will have an impact on what
Kell is going to do, is to become familiar with your County Board
Supervisors. CAC members
need to inform the County Board Supervisors what is happening with CAC
and how important the work is that the committee does.
Once they know this, Schmidt feels they will take the appropriate
action. At this point, the approach of the County Board has been not
to raise taxes, no new staff, and if you want to bring something
forward, you need to throw something else out.
Schmidt stressed the importance of contacting the County Board
officials and letting them know the significance of things this
committee is doing.
did contact his County Board supervisor Clarence Hintz.
Berndt also approached the Planning & Zoning Committee on why
the landspreading issue has not gone anywhere.
The Planning & Zoning Committee indicated the Personnel
Committee has stated there will be no new County employees, so they
would not have an employee to enforce the Ordinance.
Berndt does not feel this is appropriate.
The County wants to grow, but does not want to hire new
employees. The Personnel Committee response is that County employees do
not have that much to do now. There
has also been the excuse of the rising cost of employee health
was invited to attend and speak at the Planning & Zoning Committee
meeting. Berndt gave a
short presentation on what CAC is doing.
Berndt explained CAC members are frustrated working on projects
that go nowhere because of lack of funding and lack of employees to
enforce, review, update programs. CAC
has been given the task of updating the Groundwater Management Plan by
the Planning & Zoning Committee and the County Board.
Berndt questioned the Planning & Zoning Committee on why, if
the County is not going to fulfill their part, should CAC members put
all their time and effort in revising it?
members were encouraged to discuss issues with their local County Board
A motion was made by Berndt,
seconded by Browne, to adjourn the meeting at 9:05 p.m.
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Liz Langer, Chairman Jane Iwanski, Recording Secretary Date
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July 13, 2000
CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
JULY 13, 2000 AT 7:00 P.M.
ROOMS 1 & 2
MEMBERS PRESENT: Eleanor Bartig, Burt Benjamin, Richard Berndt, Craig Corbett, Mike
Hinrichs, Liz Langer, Chris Pehoski, Jim Potratz, and Butch Weege
Bryant Browne, Darrel DeGroff and Rosemary Seavers
Michael Copas, Fred Copes, Mark Dawson, Bill Ebert, Mark Klein, Peter
Mallek, Christine Neidlein, John Pavelski, Judie Schauer-Wiener, David
Schantz, Richard Wilcox, and Tim Zimmerman
Jane Iwanski and Chuck Kell
Chair Liz Langer called the meeting to order at 7:10 p.m.
APPROVAL OF THE MAY 18, 2000 MEETING MINUTES:
A motion was made by Corbett, seconded by Weege, to approve
the minutes. Unanimously
Iwanski distributed an updated membership listing.
Minor changes were noted. Iwanski
will update and distribute at an upcoming meeting.
Corbett requested that Reports from Members be moved
from last on the list, to after Correspondence.
Langer indicated she was concerned that moving Reports from
Members up would delay the meeting, and stated reports would be heard
in the order listed on the agenda.
Earlier during the meeting, Corbett indicated he requested
copies of the subcommittee meeting minutes; however had not received any
since the last CAC meeting. Iwanski
indicated she had added Corbett to the subcommittee’s mailing list for
the last meeting, and was uncertain as to why he did not received the
information. Iwanski will
makes sure copies of the agenda and minutes are forward to Corbett in the
future. A number of members present indicated they did not wish to
receive minutes from the subcommittee meetings. It was decided that Iwanski would send subcommittee meeting
minutes to only those CAC members who request them from her.
distributed copies of a letter from Bryant Browne to those individuals who
expressed interest in actively participating as members of this
subcommittee. In this letter,
Browne indicated he would like the first meeting of this subcommittee to
take place the week of September 11, 2000.
Iwanski will call the individuals to find out the most convenient
date and time for the meeting.
Public Involvement/Education & Groundwater Management Plan & Implementation Subcommittees (Berndt and Langer):
Berndt indicated due to lack of participation, the two subcommittee’s have slowed down a little for the summertime. Berndt explained that during the last few meetings a number of technical members have been unable to attend the meetings due to other commitments. Since the subcommittees have been meeting jointly at least twice a month for the past few months, members decided to take a month off. The next meeting will be July 27, at 4:30 p.m., in Courthouse Annex Conference Room 5.
Subcommittee members continue to attend meetings throughout Portage County and show/discuss the Portage County Groundwater slide presentation.
Due to Kilkenny-Tittle giving a presentation in the Town of Pine Grove,
presentation of the website was postponed until after agenda item #7.
UPDATE ON PROFESSOR BILL BLAND’S MODEL PROGRAM:
This issue was postponed until the August meeting, since
Professor Bland was not in attendance.
Langer indicated that Professors Bland and Anderson had sent
out thank you letters to all those individuals who had written letters of
support for their latest grant project.
DISCUSSION ON STEVENS POINT WELLHEAD PROTECTION ORDINANCE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS:
Kell indicated the Ordinance prepared by the Planning &
Zoning Department is complete; however,
it went to the City Council and they voted to have the procedure
studied further. The major change suggested by individuals is to have
outside experts draft the technical aspects of the Ordinance.
Kell does not feel this is necessary.
The Planning & Zoning Department has drafted the Wellhead
Protection Ordinance revisions based on a tremendous amount of research.
Kell feels very confident in the how the Ordinance was drafted.
Apparently, a number of people feel uncomfortable about moving the
Ordinance forward and are requesting the advice of outside experts;
however, no one is willing to pay for this service.
The philosophy of the current city Wellhead Protection
Ordinance, as well as all incorporated municipalities’ Ordinances, is to
protect out to the 5 year time of travel.
Currently, the City Ordinance covers two zones: Zone A protects the
immediate wellhead area with very strict regulations and Zone B protects
the 5 year time of travel area with regulations, but not as strict as Zone
A. There is also a Zone C,
currently not covered under the City Wellhead Protection Ordinance.
The 5 year time of travel (Zone B) regulations, cover part of
the Business Park, but not all of the Park.
In one part of the Park the County could not site any industry, if
they had any kind of chemical that EPA would have a hazardous material
sheet on; however, on the other side of the line, the County could put
anything since there is no regulation at all.
This was the problem to start with.
From an economic standpoint, Kell also had some trouble with
some industries that wanted to come into the community.
They were not bad industries, but because one had a 10,000 gallon
tank of sulphuric acid they could not locate in the Park.
It was proposed to revamp the Ordinance, but not through the
whole city. After talking to
the City, it seemed like there was some willingness to look at only doing
it as an overlay for the County Business Park.
The basis of this was, because we control who we sell to, we can
look at what kind of chemicals will be present and how they are used,
before selling the land to make sure everyone feels comfortable. Ray Schmidt was going to develop a series of standards
basically aimed at no release to the environment.
Our plan was to try and regulate the whole Park, not have
total prohibition of industries in the Park.
Some people are uncomfortable with this. The Department has been working on this ordnance for nine
months, and not getting very far. Kell
is tired of this and wants to just let the Ordinance sit the way it is.
We will put the industries in the area not regulated, then there
will not be any regulations on them.
Although concerned, we cannot get anyone to agree on what to do
about it. What is happening
now: environmentalists do not want to allow anything – want to prohibit
everything and extend the Zone B boundaries to 10 years.
We have to consider property owners’ rights.
Currently, part of the Park is Zone B and part is Zone C;
however, Kell explained the City does not have any Zone C regulations in
effect. When a parcel of
property is bought and annexed to the City, the Zone C regulations
disappear. Portage County
cannot regulate within the corporate limits of the City.
The County wanted to amend the entire area so not to have
prohibition, but to have a very strict regulatory compliance program over
the entire Park.
At this point we’re at a stand still.
Schmidt is still
optimistic that this Ordinance will move forward; Kell is not so
Prior to the website presentation, a 3 minute break was taken from 8:55
- 8:57 p.m. allowing Kilkenny-Tittle time to set-up for her presentation.
UPDATE OF WEBSITE/PUBLICATION OF CAC MEMBERS NAMES AND ADDRESSES:
Kilkenny-Tittle distributed handouts to members with information on the website. (See handout below.) The goal of this website is to increase awareness, knowledge and skills. Members were notified the new website address: http://www.uwsp.edu/water/portage, will be in effect Monday, July 17, 2000. “Behind the Scenes” information may be viewed by typing: http://www.uwsp.edu/portage/main/key.htm. Kilkenny-Tittle walked through the website pages with members, and asked those present to provide feedback. Members were encouraged to make comments and/or suggestions, on how to make the website better. Specific areas where Kilkenny-Tittle was looking for opinions included:
1. Home Page: Which photo should be placed on the home page?
Members chose a little girl drinking water from a garden hose.
2. CAC Membership List: How much information should be included on the website?
Members were reminded that as a representative, address and telephone information is public information. It was agreed that a letter will be sent to all members, indicating their name, address and telephone number will be displayed on the website, unless notified otherwise.
3. Local Officials on Representative Page: Who should be listed in this section?
This information was briefly discussed, but no specific decision
Members thought an excellent job was done on the website, and expressed their thanks to Kilkenny-Tittle.
to reports from members, Langer indicated that there would be some new
rules that would need to be followed by members.
intending to discuss specific newspaper/magazine articles, or documents,
need to provide Iwanski a copy at least two business days in advance. This
will allow copies to be made for all members.
2. Each member present, will have five minutes to give his/her report. Members will be informed by the Chair when their five minutes have elapsed.
reminded members Iwanski’s hours in the Planning & Zoning Department
are from 8:00-9:30 a.m. then again from 2:00-4:30 p.m. If a member has a question or concern, they should contact
Iwanski during these hours.
pointed out an article published in the Stevens Point Journal on
Wednesday, July 12, 2000. The
article was titled: Clinton OKs clean water plan.
This article addressed the new pollution controls imposed by the
Clinton administration. Members
requested further information be presented on this issue at the September
21, 2000 CAC meeting.
had no report, but did take time to compliment Ray Schmidt and
Kilkenny-Tittle on their presentation to the Town of Dewey earlier in the
indicated the Town of Grant is still very interested in the landspreading
issue, and will continue to monitor the issue.
Corbett also complimented Kilkenny-Tittle on her presentation.
distributed a handout on the upcoming Ag Days, held August 15 & 16,
2000, at Otter Creek Organic Farm.
stated he asked the Planning & Zoning Committee how they intended to
address the Landspreading Ordinance.
The committee felt that without appropriate Planning & Zoning
Department staff, they would be unable to support the Ordinance.
Kell will be meeting with the Portage County Corporation Counsel to
review/revise the Ordinance to include staffing issues.
Kell indicated this issue may be addressed at a future County Board
MEETING DATE AND POSSIBLE AGENDA ITEMS:
next meeting is scheduled for September 21, 2000, at 7:00 p.m. in
Courthouse Annex Conference Rooms 1 and 2.
agenda items include:
Continual Assessment Sub-Committee (Browne)
Public Involvement/Education Sub-Committee (Berndt)
Groundwater Management Plan & Implementation Sub-Committee (Langer)
Update on Professor Bill Bland’s Model Program
Clean Water Plan Being Address by the Clinton Administration
A motion was made by Berndt,
seconded by Corbett, to adjourn the meeting at 9:25 p.m.
Iwanski, Recording Secretary
County Groundwater Website Presentation July 13, 2000
Portage County Website Addresses:
Public Viewing: http://www.uwsp.edu/water/portage
"Behind the Scenes" Viewing: http://www.uwsp.edu/water/portage/main/key.htm
Take you on a visual journey of the website.
Please go home, to work, or the library to continue this journey.
Invite you to critique the website and provide feedback, as well
Do you like the photo of a child drinking water?
If so, which one or ones?
Membership List: How much information do you want on the website?
(E.g. name, address, phone, e-mail)
(page location: under "Managing the Resource,"
"Portage County Groundwater Citizens Advisory
Committee," and lastly
Officials on Representative Page: Who should be listed in this section?
(page location: under
"Taking Action," "Political Actions," "elected
officials" OR http://www.uwsp.edu/water/portage/main/key/action/reps.htm
Encourage you to provide feedback. I want this website to addresses your needs.
e-mail comments to me at email@example.com
call me in the evenings at 341-6547
print a hard copy of the page(s) and record your comments.
The hard copies could be left at the Planning and Zoning Office
with Ray OR mailed to me at: Denise
Kilkenny-Tittle, 1408 N. 2nd Drive, Stevens Point, WI 54481
electronically send feedback via the website:
On the website, under "Comments & Ideas"
Room: On the website,
under "Comments & Ideas"
(Can access from website, too.)
Future Plans for next 6
Pages on the following topics will be developed in this order:
Finish links and agency lists
Finish political actions
Finish the CAC educational
outreach activities section (articles, publication guide, etc.)
Add groundwater basics info
Add nitrate info
Add pesticide info
Add quantity info
Add water and soil testing info
Develop Taking Action
Add laws & regulations
Develop Teaching &
Develop Kid's Stuff
Add GIS (geographical information system) maps
Add research projects
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May 18, 2000
GROUNDWATER CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
THURSDAY, MAY 18, 2000 AT 7:00 P.M.
CONFERENCE ROOM 1 & 2
GROUNDWATER CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
THURSDAY, MAY 16, 2000 AT 7:00 P.M.
CONFERENCE ROOM 1
MEMBERS PRESENT: Eleanor Bartig, Richard Berndt, Fred Copes, Craig Corbett, Darrel DeGroff, Mike Hinrichs, Mark Klein, Liz Langer, Christine Neidlein, Chris Pehoski, Jim Pottratz, David Schantz, Rosemary Seavers, Tim Zimmerman
MEMBERS EXCUSED: Pete Mallek, Judie Schauer-Wiener, and Butch Weege
MEMBERS ABSENT :Bryant Browne, Mark Dawson, Bill Ebert, Michael Copas, John Pavelski, and Rich Wilcox
STAFF PRESENT: Jane Iwanski and Ray Schmidt
OTHERS PRESENT: Martha Anderson, Burt Benjamin, Bill Bland, Mike Carder, Stu Grimstad, John Jazdzewski, Denise Kilkenny-Tittle, Virgil Seavers, Robert Steinke, Planning & Zoning Committee Chairman, and Carlos Calcaterra
CALL TO ORDER: Chair Liz Langer called the meeting to order at 7:06 p.m.
APPROVAL OF MARCH 16, 2000 MEETING MINUTES:
A motion was made by Corbett, seconded by Schmidt, to approve the March 16, 2000 meeting minutes with minor corrections. Unanimously approved.
Prior to vote, Mike Hinrichs name was scratched from members listed as being absent on page one, and a web-page address was added to page two.
Prior to the last meeting, Iwanski was notified that Virgil Seavers would represent Eau Pleine, with his wife being alternate. Mr. Seavers indicated this was incorrect. Rosemary Seavers will be CAC representative, and he will serve as alternate.
Corbett also pointed out on page five and page six, Chuck Kell, Planning & Zoning Department Director indicated the Land Spreading Ordinance would go to the Planning & Zoning Committee for possible action. However, Kell explained he could not support the ordinance since the Planning & Zoning Department does not have the resources to enforce it. Corbett attended the last Planning & Zoning Committee meeting, and expressed disappointment. Although the committee allowed Corbett to speak on this issue, no action could be taken since the issue was not on the agenda. Robert Steinke, Chairman of the Planning & Zoning Committee, explained action can only be taken on items listed on the agenda, and that this issue would be on an upcoming agenda.
Iwanski was asked to inform CAC members when the issue appears on the Planning & Zoning Committee agenda, so they could attend.
INTRODUCTION OF NEW MEMBERS:
The following have recently been appointed as CAC representatives: Burt Benjamin, Town of Amherst; Fred Copes, Town of Carson; Darrell DeGroff, Town of Pine Grove; Jim Pottratz, Town of Alban; Judie Schauer-Wiener, Village of Rosholt; and Rosemary and Virgil Seavers, Town of Eau Pleine representative and alternate.
Iwanski distributed a letter from J. Blair Ward, Assistant Corporation Counsel, addressing any challenges to the Wood County Land Spreading Ordinance. At the March 16, 2000 CAC meeting, members asked Ward to find out if Wood Countys ordinance prohibiting material from being brought into Wood County from outside counties, had ever been challenged. Wards letter indicated he spoke with Wood Countys Corporation Counsel, and was notified their ordinance has never been challenged.
A memo sent to approximately 150-160 community and civic organizations in Portage County was also distributed to members. This memo was from Langer offering presentations on the state of Portage Countys groundwater by subcommittee members. Subcommittee members are offering their services to help educate citizens and offer citizens the opportunity to assist in revising the Portage County Groundwater Management Plan. Langer indicated a number of organizations have expressed interest. Subcommittee members attended a few meetings and have a number of meetings coming up in the near future. (The presentations will include the slide presentation mentioned under agenda item George Krafts Slide Presentation)
Langer also took time to recognize Robert Steinkes, Planning & Zoning Committee Chairman, presence and thank him for attending the meeting.
UPDATE ON PROFESSOR BILL BLANDS MODEL PROJECT:
Bland gave a brief presentation on the Participating Integrated Assessment of Nitrate Outcomes (PIANO) project he has been working on with Martha Anderson. Anderson is working with George Kraft on creating a model of the groundwater flow for the entire region.
The goals of this project are to:
|foster democratic, locally based environmental management|
|learn how we can make existing scientific knowledge useful in meeting above goal|
|develop an integrated assessment model of a regional agricultural system in collaboration with potential users|
Activities will include:
|field research and computer work to model how soil and nitrate management are related to crop yield and loss to groundwater|
|creating a model of groundwater flow for region|
|developing an understanding of how farm profitability might change with nitrate fertilizer restrictions|
|try "collaborative learning groups" of stakeholders|
Study Groups have been made up of one group of citizens, and one group from potato industry and growers:
|met several times during the winter|
|discussed regional system of agriculture, economy, and groundwater|
|provided two different perspectives|
Questions still remain about how soil management practices can reduce nitrate escape from crops. Bland and Anderson will review published reports for further detail; however, there is very little local field work completed.
Anderson indicated the big integrated model will consist of the following three sub-models: agronomic (land use practice), hydrology (water quality), and economy. The three sub-models are being developed individually and will be combined at a later date. Currently the model is focusing on a specific region in southwestern Portage County. However, eventually Bland and Anderson would like to expand the region to incorporate more of the irrigated vegetable production regions in the Central Sands.
Once complete, the model will allow experimentation on how different elements may influence the groundwater. This model will be located, through their server, on the internet, for all citizens to access.
This model will help people to realize time delays in chemical effects on groundwater. Groundwater can improve; however, it will take time and education.
Corbett indicated he read an article in the April 2000 issue of Successful Farming regarding disappearing nitrogen: applied in fall gone by spring. This article is a farmers story of a true experience. Corbett encouraged those present to review this article.
GEORGE KRAFTS SLIDE PRESENTATION:
Schmidt presented a slide presentation put together by George Kraft. The subcommittee members will present this slide show at various community group meetings they attend in the future. The purpose of this slide presentation is to educate Portage County residents with a basic level of knowledge on groundwater so they are able to understand the issues involved. This slide presentation provides information on groundwater flow patterns and the importance of groundwater, followed by the groundwater planning process.
One main question individuals ask is why should we care about groundwater. We should care because we use groundwater daily; however, the most important reason is because we will be passing on this groundwater to our children and our childrens children. Groundwater will be passed on regardless of what condition it is in, the least we can do at this time is to protect it and possibly improve it for our childrens sake.
Through a Value of Groundwater Survey completed, the 5% of Portage County residents who were surveyed indicated a number of concerns. Some of the results of this survey include:
|a few individuals thought groundwater should be 100% pure|
|90% felt groundwater quality should be at or below (better than) the health standards|
|50% felt that our groundwater quality is only fair or poor|
|70% felt that our groundwater quality has gotten worse over the past ten years|
The groundwater planning process can be summarized into three steps: "where are we now", where do we want to go, and how do we get there? Looking at available information, the question of where are we now has been answered. By attending community group meetings, and talking to citizens at these meetings, the subcommittees will be able to gather input for "where we want to go". Finally, goals will be set to achieve "how do we get there".
Through organizing the issues, three categories were developed:
- Well problems/natural water quality
This includes bacteria, iron, and corrosive water problems. These issues are currently being addressed by the Planning & Zoning Department, Health Department, and Extension office, who will continue to work with homeowners on solving such problems.
- Groundwater resource issues already being addressed
This includes underground storage tanks, gasoline spillage, industrial problems, solid waste sites, etc. There have been ongoing practices in Portage County over the past 10-20 years.
- Groundwater resource challenges needing attention
This group of problems are serious and widespread, and need to have action taken. This set of challenges will be addressed in the Countys revised management plan.
Three challenges the subcommittee has been looking at are:
- Groundwater quantity: Is there enough?
One suggestion is a policy be adopted to avoid significant depletion of the Countys lakes, streams, and wetlands.
- Nitrate theres too much and its increasing
Currently, Portage County has a great deal of groundwater that exceeds standards for nitrate, and nitrate levels are increasing. Currently, over 20% of County wells exceed the standard, and this number is increasing. Possible nitrate goals may include: where nitrate is low, keep it low, where nitrate is above the health standard, reduce it to below the health standard, and where nitrate is having negative environmental impacts, reduce it.
- Pesticides theyre widespread in groundwater, and we dont know a lot about whats there.
There are a number of concerns about pesticides. Currently, Atrazine residue is found in half of Portage County wells, it is unknown what other residues might be in the County groundwater, and it is unclear what pesticide residue might affect human health. These pesticides need to be identified, and it must be determined which pesticides might leach into the groundwater and have health impacts.
The groundwater working group realizes that a number of issues are being addressed and encourages these programs to continue. However, there are problems that exist that need to be worked on, so the working groups are encouraging citizens to get involved. By getting involved, residents provide different perspectives, knowledge and expertise, to help in this process.
Schmidt, Langer, and Kraft have already attended meetings held by community organizations. Schmidt has also received a number of verbal responses to the memo/offer to attend meetings. Organizations want to learn more on the issue of groundwater, and would like someone to attend their meetings in the future.
UPDATE ON COMMUNITY HEALTH ASSESSMENT:
Mike Carder, Environmental Health/Lab Supervisor for the past 14 years, distributed information on the Healthy People Portage County Community Health Assessment. Carder and Schmidt have been working together for over a year on this health assessment.
Carder introduced an initiative the Health Department is taking on at the present time called Healthy People Portage County Community Health. This plan covers a number of issues including chronic disease prevention, environmental health, alcohol and other drug use prevention, and prevention of suicide and depression. One of the environmental goals, and probably the most important goal, is drinking water quality.
Carder considers drinking water and groundwater as two separate and distinct topics. Although the two are related, drinking water comes from groundwater making it a subset of groundwater. Being a Public Health Professional, Carder focused on human health, protecting drinking water, and keeping people from getting sick.
Carder distributed a listing of the Environmental Health Implementation Team members. This team is headed by Chairman Ray Schmidt. Carder and Schmidt have been working together with the group concerning drinking water for the past year. The main drinking water goal is to reduce the number of Portage County residents drinking unsafe water. The teams strategy is to identify private drinking water wells in Portage County that produce corrosive water or that produce water exceeding health standards for nitrates and bacteria, targeting three or four townships each year, beginning in 2001.
Members questioned why the drinking water goal does not include pesticides. Carder explained that this was a decision of the team. After listing all of their concerns, team members picked the top three, including corrosive water, nitrates and bacteria.
Continual Assessment Subcommittee: No update at this time.
Public Involvement/Education & Groundwater Management Plan & Implementation SubcommitteeSchmidt indicated everything is running on schedule. The distribution of the information piece went as planned. The information piece was distributed in the Stevens Point Journal and Portage County Gazette in April.
Both subcommittees continue to meet regularly. The subcommittees continue to work on a number of issues, including: development of a bibliography, writing a series of articles for the Stevens Point Journal editorial page, development of a web-site (Denise Kilkenny-Tittle), and finalizing the public presentation slide show.
DISCUSSION ON WELLHEAD PROTECTION ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS:
Schmidt indicated part of the new County Business Park is located in a Whiting recharge area. Currently, the City Wellhead Protection ordinance protects municipal wells located in the City of Stevens Point; however, this ordinance was not written to protect Whitings municipal wells. Being that part of the Town of Plover was annexed to the City of Stevens Point, the City now has control over most of Whitings recharge area. Currently, the County is assisting the City in making revisions to include Whitings municipal wells in the their Wellhead Protection Ordinance. The County (and City) would like to impose the same regulations, providing the same level of protection, throughout the entire Portage County Business Park, while the park is still new, and before industries move in.
The original Wellhead Protection Ordinances was set up with prohibitions against industries having hazardous chemicals within the B Zone. While revising the ordinance, the concept of no release into the environment, remains the same. The County would like to see the same level of protection because of the sandy soil located in the municipal well recharge area. Having sandy soil, any chemical contamination could eventually reach the municipal wells. The entire purpose of this ordinance is to protect, so if there is no release of contaminants to the soil, then there cannot be any contamination of the groundwater. Any chemical transfer facilities allowed in the Business Park will be under roof, or totally enclosed where the fire department will allow it. Monitoring practices will be put into effect within the plant, not outside the plant we do not need monitoring wells, if there is no discharge to the environment.
DISCUSSION: DELAYED IMPLEMENTATION OF COMM-83:
When COMM-83 was first revised, the State said it would allow all types of septic systems, some very complicated. Although all counties will need to comply with implementing COMM-83; the State indicated implementation could be delayed for up to three years if the County passes an ordinance requiring them to do so. Portage County has chosen to delay implementation for two reasons. One reason is to give the inspectors and contractors a chance to receive training on the new systems. Many of the new systems will require a lot more maintenance than pumping a septic tank. The second reason is to look at the land in the County that will now be available for development, which previously was not. Portage County has been able to keep development out of the sensitive, less suitable areas throughout the County. With COMM-83 being revised, the State also put into effect a Comprehensive Land Use Management Scheme. This requires Counties to have Land Use Plans in order to preclude development in certain areas. During this three year period of delayed implementation, the County will hopefully gather information for municipalities interested in preserving some of their land, to develop Land Use Plans.
REPORTS FROM MEMBERS:
Corbett notified members the April 2000 issue of Time magazine was a special edition titled Time: How to Save the Earth. Corbett indicated this issue was very educational.
NEXT MEETING DATE & POSSIBLE AGENDA ITEMS:
The next meeting is July 13, 2000 at 7:00 p.m. in Courthouse Annex Conference rooms 1 and 2.
Agenda items may include:
Presentation by Denise Kilkenny-Tittle on website
Berndt made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 9:45 p.m., seconded by DeGroff. Unanimously approved.
Liz Langer, Chair Jane Iwanski, Recording Secretary Date
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March 16, 2000
GROUNDWATER CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
THURSDAY, MARCH 16, 2000 AT 7:00 P.M.
CONFERENCE ROOM 1
MEMBERS PRESENT: Bryant Browne, Mark Dawson, Eleanor Bartig, Richard Berndt, Craig Corbett, Mike Hinrichs, Liz Langer, Pete Mallek, Christine Neidlein, Chris Pehoski, Butch Weege, Rich Wilcox and Tim Zimmerman
MEMBERS EXCUSED: Darrell DeGroff and Mark Klein
MEMBERS ABSENT: Michael Copas, Bill Ebert, Mike Hinrichs, John Pavelski, Dave Schantz and Virgil Seavers
STAFF PRESENT: Jane Iwanski, Chuck Kell and Ray Schmidt
CALL TO ORDER: Chair Liz Langer called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
APPROVAL OF JANUARY 20, 2000 METING MINUTES:
A motion was made by Corbett, seconded by Zimmerman, to approve the January 20, 2000 meeting minutes as prepared. Unanimously approved.
New CAC membership listing was distributed to those present. Iwanski received written verification of the following CAC appointments: Merle "Butch" Weege, Town of Dewey, Virgil Seavers, Town of Eau Pleine (wife Rosemary Seavers is the alternate), and Darrell DeGroff, Town of Pine Grove. Weege, the only new member present, was briefly introduced.
Iwanski received copies of The Quality of Our Nations Water, a booklet put out by the USGS in 1999. This booklet was originally discussed by Pehoski at the November 16, 1999 CAC meeting. Copies were available for those interested.
Copies of the final information piece were distributed to members.
Corbett attended the Portage County Towns Association meeting and indicated there is an increase of interest in groundwater. At this meeting membership on the CAC was discussed, and Corbett made a plea to the Towns Association to appoint members to the groundwater committee to represent their communities.
Continual Assessment Sub-Committee. Browne indicated now that he has more time available, he looks forward to working actively with this sub-committee. In late April/May he will have time to begin gathering information necessary on funding from the State and federal agencies. After this information is compiled, Browne will start working to actively form this sub-committee. Information gathered from the other two sub-committees will serve as a good platform for this sub-committee. The web-site will also help pull data together.
Public Involvement/Education and Groundwater Management Plan & Implementation Sub-Committees:
Langer indicated the two sub-committees have been meeting almost every other week. Currently, their main objective has been working to educate citizens on what good groundwater is. A lot of time has been spent finalizing the information piece. The information piece is scheduled to be printed and distributed in early April. Signature Press will print the information piece. Once printed, the document will be inserted in the Stevens Point Journal and the Portage County Gazette. Schmidt stated the Journals "light day" for circulars is Tuesday, however, they are able to insert the document any day requested. The Gazette will include the document with their Thursdays mailing. Schmidt is also looking for other avenues for distributing the information piece and getting citizens interested.
Once the information piece is distributed, sub-committee members will offer to attend upcoming meetings held by local organizations who are interested. Letters will be sent out to organizations and individuals offering services/presentations. Once all presentations are completed, and further information is gathered, the sub-committee members will compile the information and present it to the County Board.
Members discussed the web-page address which is: http://water.uwsp.edu/portage
DISCUSSION/ACTION ON MEETING GUIDELINES/QUORUM ISSUE:
Langer briefly reviewed previous discussion on this issue. At the January meeting, Blair Ward, Assistant Corporation Counsel, outlined two options for changing the number of members required to constitute a quorum and conduct business. The two options were:
Ward recommended amending the enabling legislation to protect the committee if their authority to conduct business, while having a quorum less than the majority of the committee members, was ever challenged.
Corbett indicated he would like to see this issue given to the Planning & Zoning Committee to take to the County Board to which the committee is accountable. In addition, Corbett continued to express his feelings that CAC is not a governing board, and therefore, does not need to follow quorum requirements.
Langer expressed concerns in giving this decision to County Board to make, because of problems CAC has had with the County Board in the past. Langer indicated she would like to see a decrease in the number of members necessary to constitute a quorum. Langer also requested a decision to be made tonight.
Zimmerman suggested the quorum requirement should be lowered to seven. He also felt that if the CAC membership is decreased, it may be difficult meeting the 50% quorum requirement.
Kell stated that if CAC decides to refer this matter to the County Board, there should be some indication from CAC, regarding what it would like to see for an outcome and why. If presented to County Board without specifics, the County Board may feel that CAC, like other County Committees, should follow Roberts Rules of Order.
A motion was made by Zimmerman, seconded by Bartig, to lower the quorum requirement to seven.
Browne felt that instead of a specific number, lower the quorum requirement to one-third of CAC members. Dawson agreed that in the future membership may go down, and with a one-third requirement it wouldnt matter what the membership number is.
Zimmerman explained by setting the number at seven, even if CAC membership dropped, this would still be good representation. Anything less than seven is not representing Portage County properly. Zimmerman also suggested that this be reviewed annually.
Zimmerman motioned to amend his previous motion to include an annual review. Bartig seconded. The motion now reads to lower the quorum requirement to seven, with an annual review. A question on the motion was called. Motion passed with a 7 aye, to 5 nay vote.
DISCUSSION/ACTION WITH CORPORATION COUNSEL ON LANDSPREADING ORDINACNE:
Copies of the Portage County Landspreading Ordinance, as drafted by Ward, were mailed to members prior to the meeting.
A motion was made by Corbett to pass the Portage County Landspreading Ordinance as presented, seconded by Zimmerman.
Prior to a vote, members discussed concerns on wording throughout the ordinance and enforcement of the ordinance.
Zimmerman expressed concerns over the deed notations required for the landspreading of solid waste, and questioned why this was being done and how long it would be necessary to document this information on the deed. Schmidt and Ward explained certain materials stay in the soils permanently, and by documenting this information on the deed, future/potential buyers would know how the land was previously cared for, and/or farmed. This information would be for the benefit of future/potential owners and would stay on the deed in perpetuity. Kell added that this notation would be a signal to potential buyers to have additional testing done to make sure there are no residual effects from prior activities. Schmidt added that potential buyers could also check with the DNR or the County to make sure the site was properly closed after the treatment was completed.
Members questioned the solid waste definition. The definition states solid waste is "any garbage, refuse, sludge from a waste treatment plant, water supply treatment plant or air pollution control facility and other discarded or salvageable materials, including soil, liquid, semisolid, or contained gaseous materials resulting from industrial, commercial, mining and agricultural operations, and from community activities, but does not include solids or dissolved material in domestic sewage, or solid or dissolved materials in irrigation return flows or industrial discharges .". Currently, solid waste from agriculture is not excluded. Schmidt indicated in accordance with the State Statute and Administrative Rule, manure is considered a soil amendment and nutrient source, and not garbage, refuge or sludge. Members continued to express concerns because of the statement "resulting from industrial, commercial, mining and agricultural operation " Kell indicated this is exactly what State Statute reads in chapter 289.
Dawson explained there is a landspreading permit process for agriculture. You cannot just take this material and spread without a permit. If you would look under the definition for agricultural waste, this would not include animal waste.
Ward indicated Chapter 518 of the Administrative Code has a section titled "Exemptions", which includes an exemption for non-hazardous agricultural solid wastes resulting from the operation of a farm, including farm animal manure. Ward further indicated that this exemption is pretty general, so it could include solid waste from a farm, and could include chemicals, if resulting from operation on the farm. Although this section includes animal manure, the exemption is not limited to animal manure. Ward referenced this code in the ordinance so the County would have the same authority as the State. This ordinance was drafted identically to what the State has. Instead of duplicating everything word for word, Ward tried to condense it by referencing statute and code numbers. Ward feels very comfortable with what has been drawn up. Anything that has been covered in the State Statutes or Administrative Code is in the ordinance.
Members questioned why Portage County would want to mirror the State codes and regulations. Schmidt indicated currently the extent of Portage County involvement is to contact DNR and notify them of a complaint situation. Once DNR is contacted, Portage County no longer is involved. Schmidt explained that the DNR operates on the information provided by the consultant, the County operates based on our GIS system. By mirroring the State codes and regulations, if the County felt the DNR was not doing a thorough job, the County could look into matters on its own. DNR staff do not have the knowledge of local resources and problems, so this would be a benefit for Portage County. The County has had at least one situation where DNR has given a preliminary approval for material to be spread on a site, the consultant than came to the County and found that the soils on the site were not suitable.
By adopting this ordinance, the County would be administering the regulations in the State Administrative Rule and the State Statutes, along with the DNR. The County would have the same authority as the DNR to prosecute cases, if necessary. Currently, all problems need to be referred to the DNR, which investigates the situation, and refers it to the Department of Justice for prosecution, if necessary. The County has been disappointed on the lack of response from the Department of Justice. If the County has the authority, we have a lot more confidence that the program will be properly administered, and improper landspreading would be prosecuted appropriately through the Portage County Corporation Counsel. This ordinance would cover the entire County.
When asked who would administer the ordinance, Kell expressed that he had a number of concerns. Kell basically supports the ordinance, and agrees that the Portage County Planning & Zoning Department would be able to do a better job approving the sites and looking at the plans up front. However, Kells main concern is enforcement of the ordinance. Currently, Kell can not support the ordinance because the Portage County Planning & Zoning Department does not have sufficient enforcement personnel to enforce the ordinance. Kell questioned the value of CAC adopting the ordinance, if there are no resources to enforce it. Kell indicated he could not present the ordinance to the Planning & Zoning Committee when there is no way for the Planning & Zoning Department to enforce it.
Committee members expressed their discouragement in trying to establish a landspreading ordinance to benefit Portage County residents, but because of a lack of personnel to enforce it, it cannot move forward.
Corbett indicated that there should be a central location to enforce the ordinance and suggested getting the County Board involved. Corbett suggested approving this ordinance tonight, forwarding it to the Planning & Zoning Committee for approval, and then to the County Board for final vote. If the County Board does not approve the ordinance, then the committee has done all that it could do.
Corbett requested a vote on the motion. Chairman Langer called for a vote on the motion made by Corbett to pass the Portage County Landspreading Ordinance as presented. This motion was seconded by Zimmerman. Unanimously approved.
This ordinance will now go to the Planning & Zoning Committee. Langer urged members to attend this meeting and voice their opinions.
Langer commented that she would like to include no acceptance of material from outside of Portage County. Browne indicated this request was reflected in the January 20, 2000 meeting minutes. Schmidt indicated Portage County cannot prohibit material from coming into Portage County because this is regulated by a State wide code. Although Wood County Ordinance indicates they have the right to prohibit acceptance of material from outside counties, the County ordinance does not take precedence over the State Code. Members questioned whether Wood Countys ordinance has ever been challenged. Ward indicated he would contact Wood County to find out if their land spreading ordinance has ever been challenged, and update the committee at the next meeting.
Committee members thanked Ward for all his assistance in preparing the ordinance, as well as attending the meetings to address their questions and concerns.
UPDATE ON PROFESSOR BILL BLANDS MODEL PROGRAM:
Pehoski indicated Bland has been meeting with small groups. To date, there have been four meetings, with another meeting scheduled for April 4, 2000. The groups have been helping in establishing a nitrogen model explaining how nitrogen moves through plants and soil to groundwater. Langer mentioned that Bland has also been meeting with potato growers, but has not shared a lot of their meeting discussion with the concerned citizens group.
STATE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLANS:
At the last meeting, members expressed concerns that the State was going two different directions with the new septic system code. COMM 83 allows septic systems to go anywhere, as long as they provide proper treatment, and the State is proposing that localities have Land Use Plans. Committee members are concerned that maybe COMM 83 will allow wide spread development without a Land Use Plan. The articles that have been brought to the committees attention by Berndt, have been contradicting.
Kell indicated this is occurring because COMM 83 was based on a State initiative by the Department of Commerce to revise the code. Its argument is that DCOMM does not deal with local land use and development decisions, all they deal with is sighting septic systems. The Department of Commerce feels that if this code is a problem, then it is up to the local units of government to change when/where development can occur.
The Comprehensive Land Use Planning legislation was not a State department initiative, but instead a result of the development community and realty community who wanted more consistency between municipalities. In addition to this, citizens and planners also expressed concerns regarding the environment and outdated statutes. Kell indicated that as a member of the State Planning Association, he had been involved in every meeting when developing this legislation. It was a very interesting learning experience listening to all the interest groups input on this issue. With this input, the organization developed a new set of planning laws for the State not expecting them to adopted. However, two legislators noticed the proposal and pushed them through the legislature. Because of this, we now have a new planning law that says, if communities want to have zoning or sub-division ordinances, or any ordinances that regulate land, that community has to have a comprehensive plan adopted by 2010, or its authority to enact those ordinances disappears. If a community does not establish a Land Use Plan, all ordinances will be null and void until a Plan is in effect.
Although a plan is necessary, there are now conflicts with what the State is doing. COMM 83 provides for an effective date of June 1, 2000: however, it also includes a provision that a county can delay implementation for up to three years to get a Land Use Plan in place. Communities will need to readjust all plans and zoning before this code takes effect. Kell does not doubt that Portage County will be asking for delayed implementation. The steps for complying are first to develop a plan, then any land use has to be consistent with the plan. All zoning codes will need to be revised to meet the intent of this Land Use Plan. Kell has addressed this issue at the Towns Association meeting. Towns are trying to gear up for how to meet these requirements.
For Portage County Towns, this project should not be that bad since most of the townships are under the County jurisdiction.
MTBE IN WATER/GAS STATIONS:
Schmidt indicated he had contacted DNR staff regarding Koch Industries and MTBE. Schmidt was informed that Koch has never had MTBE in their products. Petroleum inspectors from DIHLR do not believe there is any MTBE in Portage County based on their inspections, and also feel that because of this, there would be no contaminated sites. Based on the individuals Schmidt talked to, MTBE is not being used in this area, however, that does not mean it will not be used in the future. Currently, the DNR is not testing for MTBE. Members felt that although we may not be using MTBE here in Portage County, there are also stations having petroleum products shipped in from Green Bay and surrounding areas. How can we be sure they do not use MTBE.
At the last meeting Zimmerman expressed concerns on the Koch Pipeline and the $35 million Koch paid in fines for falsifying data. Zimmerman questioned whether Portage County would be entitled to any of this money.
Schmidt had spoken with the EPA and found out that the fines paid by Koch Pipeline were for lack of reporting in 1990 and 1991, not falsifying data. The money paid by Koch went to the EPA.
REPORTS FROM MEMBERS:
Due to the length of the meeting, reports from members were postponed until the May 18, 2000 meeting.
NEXT MEETING DATE AND POSSIBLE AGENDA ITEMS:
The next meeting will be held on May 18, 2000, in Courthouse Conference Rooms 1 & 2.
Members should contact the Chair with suggestions for agenda items.
Motion was made by Berndt, seconded by Dawson, to adjourn the meeting at 9:30 p.m. Unanimously approved.
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Liz Langer, Chair Jane Iwanski, Recording Secretary Date
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January 20, 2000
GROUNDWATER CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
THURSDAY, JANUARY 20, 2000 AT 7:00 P.M.
CONFERENCE ROOM 1 & 2
GROUNDWATER CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
2000 TENTATIVE MEETING SCHEDULE
In the year 2000 we would like all members to actively participate by attending meetings and providing input. There are six meetings scheduled for the year 2000, and every members attendance is important. If you do not feel you are able to actively serve on the committee, please contact Ray Schmidt or myself in the near future, so your municipality can appoint a replacement/alternate.
Meetings will take place on the third Thursday of every other month at 7:00 p.m. in Courthouse Annex Conference Room 1 & 2, unless otherwise noted. The tentative schedule is as follows:
January 20, 2000 March 16, 2000 (Courthouse Annex Room 1) May 18, 2000 July 13, 2000 September 21, 2000 November 9, 2000
Dates may change, if necessary.
GROUNDWATER CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
THURSDAY, JANUARY 20, 2000 AT 7:00 P.M.
CONFERENCE ROOMS 1 & 2
PORTAGE COUNTY GROUNDWATER CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE
THURSDAY, JANUARY 20, 2000 AT 7:00 P.M.
CONFERENCE ROOMS 1 & 2
MEMBERS PRESENT: Eleanor Bartig, Richard Berndt, Craig Corbett, Bill Ebert, Mark Klein, Liz Langer, Christine Neidlein, Chris Pehoski, Dave Schantz, Rich Wilcox, and Tim Zimmerman
MEMBERS EXCUSED: Pete Mallek and Merle Weege
MEMBERS ABSENT: Ken Blomberg, Bryant Browne, Michael Copas, Mark Dawson, Mike Hinrichs, and John Pavelski
OTHERS PRESENT: Ron Borski, Town of Stockton Chairman; Greg Disher, Stevens Point Water Department; Rich Feltz, Town of Stockton CAC Alternate; Denise Kilkenny-Tittle; Jerry Landowski; Phyllis Landowski, Village of Rosholt Trustee; Sharon Schwab; and Blair Ward, Assistant Corporation Counsel
CALL TO ORDER: Chair Liz Langer called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
Members were notified that Ray Schmidt, Portage County Water Quality Specialist, would be arriving late. Because of this, agenda items were heard out of order.
INTRODUCTION OF NEW MEMBERS:
Recently, two Towns appointed representatives to CAC. Mark Klein, Town of Belmont representative was present and was briefly introduced; however, Merle Weege, Town of Dewey representative, was unable to attend the meeting.
APPROVAL OF SEPTEMBER 23, 1999 & NOVEMBER 11, 1999 MEETING MINUTES:
A motion was made by Ebert, seconded by Zimmerman, to approve the September 23, 1999, meeting minutes as prepared. Minutes were approved with a 10 aye, 1 nay (Corbett) vote.
On page 5, of the November 11, 1999 meeting minutes, under Reports from Members, the name of the newspaper that Berndt discussed was unlisted. Berndt indicated the articles were found in the Central Wisconsin Sunday Paper. A motion was made by Zimmerman, seconded by Pehoski, to accept the minutes as amended. Minutes were approved with a 10 aye, 1 nay (Corbett) vote.
At the November 11, 1999 meeting, Pehoski discussed The Quality of Our Nations Waters booklet distributed by USGS. Iwanski requested copies of the booklet from USGS; but received copies of a summary instead. Copies of the summary were distributed to those present. Iwanski will call the USGS with a second request for copies of the 82 page booklet.
No update was provided on the Continual Assessment Sub-Committee, Chaired by Bryant Browne, since the sub-committee has not met yet.
Langer provided an update to members on the ongoing Public Involvement/Education and Groundwater Management Plan & Implementation Sub-Committees joint sub-committee meetings. The two sub-committees are near the final draft of the Information Piece. The information provided in the document was reviewed by not only sub-committee members but also residents. Each sub-committee member was provided five copies of the Information Piece in draft format, to distribute to neighbors for their input. Once all the neighbors comments, questions, and concerns were gathered, the two sub-committees met to review and incorporate their ideas into the document. Langer indicated the last change to be made, is placing real Portage County citizens (Vic and Beth Akemann), on the cover page. Copies of this Information Piece were unavailable for the meeting; however, Langer provided Iwanski with a copy of the latest version to copy and mail to all members for their review. Copies may be inserted in the Stevens Point Journal and the Portage County Gazette for distribution. An additional 5-6,000 copies will be made for individuals on the committee to distribute. Once distributed, sub-committee members will attend additional meetings throughout Portage County (municipality meetings, social groups, church groups, etc.), to get this information out and educate as many people as possible. Attending meetings will also give sub-committee members the chance to talk with residents and see what their concerns are.
This document is designed to remind Portage County residents what our groundwater is like, and is the first step in setting goals for what we want our groundwater to be like someday. The hard part will be gathering and recommending long term/short term strategies on how to achieve those goals.
Berndt indicated the project is running on schedule, putting the distribution date at the end of February or early in March. Some progress has been made to gather funding for printing and distribution of the information piece. Ebert added that the following municipalities have provided funding towards the project: Portage County $600 (not received yet), City of Stevens Point $500 (received), Village of Plover $400 (received), and Village of Whiting $50 (received).
Filtz felt the committee is going backwards, and expressed his disappointment with needing to start all over from scratch. Filtz felt that currently concerned residents are not being listened to, and until larger steps are taken, the County and Government officials will not listen to what we have to say.
Ebert stated that the revised plan will not just sit on the shelf. It will be a document that changes as we learn and add new information on the groundwater in Portage County. This information will be available to planners and decision makers, as well as the general public. Part of this process is to have a web-site on the internet on the status of groundwater in Portage County. Any citizen with access to a computer will be able to find out what is going on and how the plan is being implemented.
Kilkenny-Tittle, who will be working with the two sub-committees, provided a brief introduction. Kilkenny-Tittle recently finished working on the Wisconsin Environmental Education Board (WEEB) grant application for development of the web-page. She will be attending an upcoming meeting with the Public Education/Information and Groundwater Management & Implementation Sub-Committees, to brainstorm and prioritize issues for the interactive web-page. Kilkenny-Tittle will be forming a special committee to review all information provided for the web-page. So far the committee consists of Ray Schmidt, Bryant Browne, and DennisYockers. Kilkenny-Tittle asked that members know she is open for suggestions and comments. Please feel free to contact her at 341-6547 or e-mail her at one of the following: school e-mail:firstname.lastname@example.org, or home e-mail: email@example.com.
Other issues the sub-committees are working on include compiling a bibliography of educational information available throughout the county and developing a slide show presentation. The two sub-committees are trying to include as many diverse organizations as possible to get feedback so we have a solid base in support in the community for what the sub-committees are doing.
UPDATE ON PROFESSOR BILL BLANDS MODEL PROJECT:
Langer stated that a small group of individuals will meet with Bill Bland on Tuesday, January 25, 2000. There will be four meetings with each of two separate groups. The first group of individuals were picked from CAC and its sub-committees, and the second group consists of vegetable farmers. The committees will be worked with separately.
Bland will be starting the piano project where we will get together and see what kind of consensus our group can come up with on the economics and environment, and the groundwater issue and farming. This will be further discussed at the next meeting.
A letter was mailed to those participating in the model project. Ebert read the following long term goals statement from the letter mailed to those participating in the project.
to work with small groups of stakeholders to collaboratively develop a shared understanding of the linkages among agriculture, environment, and the economy in the Central Sands, and to create a computer model that captures this understanding, such that citizens can interactively explore various views of the next 20 years that emerge from the interactions of all parts of the system, to have the citizen collaborators feel sufficiently comfortable with the model that they will act as guides for others who wish to use the model to understand the consequences of policy and behavior alternatives on possible futures.
DISCUSSION WITH CORPORATION COUNSEL ON MEETING GUIDELINES:
At the November 11, 1999 CAC meeting, Blair Ward, Assistant Corporation Counsel, was asked to provide an opinion regarding whether or not a quorum is required for CAC to conduct business. Ward notified members, that after review, he could not find an exception to the quorum requirement while conducting business by an advisory committee. Ward further discussed this issue with Corporation Counsel Mike McKenna who agreed, a quorum is required even for an advisory committee. A memo from Ward was distributed to members outlining two options for changing the number of members required to constitute a quorum and conduct business. The two options are:
Ward recommended amending the enabling legislation. This would protect the committee if anyone challenged its authority to conduct business while having a quorum less than the majority of the committee members (because the enabling legislation must be approved by the County Board). The current enabling legislation does not address the quorum issue at all. Ward also said that a quorum would include only those municipalities with designated representatives. The municipalities who chose not to participate, by not appointing a representative, are not part of CAC and would not be included in the quorum count.
Corbett referenced a public notice referring to a governing body, and stated CAC is not a governing body since there is not equal representation from each municipality. Corbett indicated the number of representatives should be decided by the number of people who have a right to vote in a municipality. Berndt questioned the committee operating on the basis of one representative per municipality. Ward responded that under the current enabling legislation, the committee could operate. Langer reminded those present that this was how the committee was set up, one representative per municipality. Ward also indicated if members want to change this, they would need to go back to the County Board and request a change.
A number of members indicated that it is hard enough to get the municipalities to appoint one representative, let alone appoint more than one. Berndt explained that CAC is a different type of organization, and unlike the County Board, City Council, Legislature, or Congress, CAC members are appointed, not elected. As defined in the enabling legislation, CAC members are appointed by the municipalities, and although not a political body, CAC is still a governing body.
Corbett indicated this issue will not be resolved until he sees equal representation from each municipality. After lengthy discussion on what constitutes governing body and quorum, members were reminded that when the County Board established this committee, it was specifically stated in the enabling legislation, one representative (and one alternate) per municipality.
Members agree that they would like to see all municipalities represented. Ebert suggested developing a strategy to recruit additional members to represent those municipalities not currently represented. This will be discussed in further detail at the March meeting.
No vote was taken since the agenda item did not include action on this issue. Action will be taken at the March 16, 2000 meeting.
DISCUSSION WITH CORPORATION COUNSEL ON LANDSPREADING ORDINANCE:
A copy of the Wood County ordinance pertaining to landspreading of petroleum contaminated soil was forwarded to all members in their agenda packets.
At the last meeting, Ward was asked if Portage County could enact an ordinance to regulate landspreading of solid waste. Ward responded yes, an ordinance could be enacted. He will draft an ordinance which will not only regulate petroleum contaminated soil, but solid waste landspreading as defined in the State Statute, as well. This ordinance will allow Portage County to enforce landspreading issues, in addition to them being regulated by DNR under State Statute and Administrative Code.
Additional issues members asked to be included in the ordinance:
*prohibiting acceptance of materials from outside Portage County
Langer also questioned why the well recharge areas were not included in Wood Countys ordinance. Schmidt had been notified by the DNR that the Portage County Wellhead Protection ordinance is flawed. Although our ordinance tries to give Portage County authority to regulate landspreading within the recharge areas, only the DNR has this authority.
Schmidt reminded members that we should not generalize that the DNR is not doing its job in regulating landspreading. Greg Disher, Water & Sewage Administrator for Stevens Point, is in charge of spreading the sludge (municipal waste) from Stevens Point treatment plants. Disher indicated he is highly regulated by the DNR, and explained how the materials are processed/prepared, prior to landspreading. Schmidt also added that proper landspreading of materials can be one of the best ways to treat this material and can actually be beneficial for the soil.
Ward will use Wood Countys ordinance as a reference when drafting Portage Countys ordinance. Once prepared, copies will be mailed to all members prior to the March meeting.
DISCUSSION ON CONTAMINATED SOIL FROM DREDGING OF MCDILL POND:
Schmidt received information that the Department of Transportation (DOT) has no intention of using the material at the Highway 10 & J interchange due to expense.
Schmidt received a letter and analysis from RMP, completed for the DOT last October. This letter indicates nitrogen was the only material found at levels where they could quantify it. Although other materials were detected, the amounts were so low they could not be quantified. As far as the dioxin issue, Schmidt received varied expert opinions from several individuals; however, no one was willing to give a definitive answer on what will happen to the dioxins that sit at the bottom of the pond. The only place dioxins would be found was in the side channel sloughs. By not dredging in this area, the contaminants will stay confined to the area where they are located. If dredged, the material could be used as a soil amendment, using the nitrogen on farm fields and spreading it at rates that would be acceptable for nutrient use. Until the money is found to dredge, the material will remain at the bottom of the pond.
DISCUSSION ON PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES SALT STORAGE IN WELLHEAD PROTECTION ZONE C (VILLAGE OF PLOVER):
Schmidt notified members that the Portage County Planning & Zoning Department does not have jurisdiction over the Towns of Belmont, Grant, and Pine Grove, the City of Stevens Point, or any Villages. Schmidt spoke with the Village of Plover on the salt storage shed brought up at the November meeting. The shed is located in the Village of Plover, and they do not prohibit salt storage in the C zone. Schmidt will look for more information on salt storage for Zimmerman.
Filtz expressed concern on the state comprehensive land use planning issue. Due to the lack of information board members had on the issue, members indicated they would like to hear more on this issue at the next meeting. Schmidt will ask Chuck Kell, Planning & Zoning Department Director, to attend the next meeting and provide a better explanation on this issue
DISCUSSION ON MUNICIPAL AND PUBLIC WELL TESTING REQUIREMENTS:
There was discussion at the last meeting, questioning whether requirements of posting water test results were being met. Schmidt received clarification for rural governmental buildings from the DNR. The DNR has the following requirement: if there are 25 or more people present for 60 days a year or more, the well is then considered a transient non-community well and would need to have nitrate and bacteria tests done yearly. If the bacteria is unsafe, or the nitrates are over 10 parts per million, this information would need to be posted. If there are fewer than 25 people present, or for less than 60 days a year, the well is treated like a private well with no testing or notification required. The majority of municipal buildings do not meet the requirement for transient non-community status, therefore, they do not need to post well results.
REPORTS FROM MEMBERS:
Berndt indicated the Stevens Point Journal continues to print conflicting information on land-use issues. One article indicates the state is no longer going to prohibit development even if the soil is poor. The state is saying that counties and municipalities need to plan where they want development, regardless of the soil. The municipalities need to decide which areas are suitable for development, and which areas are not. The two issues, although separate, do interlock as well.
Filtz questioned Olsens Mill, and why the wells on the property are not being properly tested. Schmidt indicated a monitoring plan has been filed with the County. Schmidt indicated he did not know if this plan was acceptable or not. At the time it was filed, specific details were not discussed because of the potential law suit.
Filtz stated his concerns with the MTBE program aired on 60 Minute within the last two weeks. Filtz indicated he knows Copps uses MTBE in their gas. A number of members watched the program and expressed their concerns as well. Filtz indicated this issue is out there and questioned how long it will be before people take this issue seriously and start testing. Schmidt called Bill Devita, at the Task Force Lab, and is waiting for a response on the different/potential testing methods for MTBEs. Schmidt will provide the committee with more information at the next meeting.
Zimmerman has concerns on the Koch pipeline. He stated there have been a number of spills. Zimmerman indicated Koch Industries just forfeited $35 million to the EPA for failure to check their pipelines. This failure to check their pipeline has resulted in several spills.
Corbett felt that at each CAC meeting, an Assembly Representative, as well as a Planning & Zoning Committee members should be present to pass on the information discussed at the meetings to the County Board.
FUTURE MEETING DATES/AGENDA ITEMS:
The next meeting will be March 16, 2000 at 7:00 p.m
The next meeting will be March 16, 2000 at 7:00 p.m. in Courthouse Annex Conference Room 1. Issues may include:
0. Sub-Committee Updates
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